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September 12, 2012

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Rod

JJ -

Didn't you intend to refer to Hillary as the KFC special - an unapetizing box lunch consisting of two skinny wings, two huge thighs, and no breasts? When I lived in Olympia, we used to ask a simple question to newbies, "What is the difference between Dixie Lee Ray and a bowling ball?" The set obvious answer was if you really had to, you could eat the bowling ball. I see no difference between Dixie and Hillary. No wonder Slick Willie felt the need to flavor his cigars.

john jay

rod:

why should islam get immunity for the acts of islam?

it is a curious set of rules they want the rest of us to obey. kill infidels the world over, immunity from the infidels the world over.

makes no sense to me why we should play by those rules.

john jay

Rod

JJ -

Recall the old white paper I wrote and shared with you several years ago regarding the Islamic cult. Nothing has changed from my earlier musings. The war with Islam, while being approached with asemetric battle doctrine remains miss-guided. The world's fight remains focused on the wrong end of the Islamic organizational structure.

Hope you remember that the real structure for Islam is like a target with the Moderate occupying the outer ring (this ring serves as the safety buffer for the structure), the radical Islamice occupying the middle ring serves as the enforcement), but it is the Immams, Mullahs, and the "holy" teachers occupying the center who provide the control of all aspects of hostilities.

It has been my argument defined from many years of study that Islam can not be defeated by fighting a formal government or only the radical elements. The only way to effectively fight their system is to kill the head of the snakes followed by the mass destruction of the radical wings. Without the destruction of the inner two rings of the structure, nothing but the killing tactics will ever change. Ironically, destroying the target's center is the easiest to attain with least expenditure of our resources. It is by attacking the center that will drive the survivors into hiding along with the radical elements - the result is breaking the back of the structure. It will separate the moderat ring, which may comprise 85-90% of the whole, from the rest of the structure. It is then and only then that this cult religion can be dismantled or changed to force it to accept the fact that the non-Muslim world has the right to exist and left the hell alone.

john jay

rod:

yes, they foment and they suffer not.

others die, and die for them, and they are immune.

we know where they live.

john jay

john jay

p.s. btw, agreed, all counts.

john jay

oopsies!!

rod, i got a little carried away in my agreement with you in general, ... , and agreed to something that i don't agree with.

i do agree with the prime minister of turkey, whose name escapes me, when he says there is no moderate islam.

i don't think there is a moderate islam, ... , it is what it is, and all of its murderous tendencies are deeply embedded in the tenets of the religion

robert spencer's analysis on this is pretty good, i think.

and, i don't think there are moderate muslims, to the extent that they are observant.

what i do think there are, are muslims who are not inclined to be killing everybody, always, ... , especially if the back of their necks get chopped as well.

i think that those muslims can be driven or encouraged, depending on your point of view, to stop killing everybody if they know that retribution is direct and swift, and includes them.

i would say they are analogous to the boston-pub irish who contributed funds to the i.r.a. provo wing, knowing full well that guns and bombs would be used to fight the english in northern ireland.

they weren't "moderate" either. but, when things got quiet, they go quiet.

so, i agree with you basically, especially the "... cutting the heads off snakes ..." part.

good analysis.

i don't think there is, however, any component of islam that is moderate. even if they don't murder themselves, they are contributing money and the like to the jihad.

but, i think they can be controlled, and influenced, if by an instinct for survival, if nothing else.

john

Rod

JJ -
I only refer to the support or buffer ring as moderate Islam so that our PC friends can identify to that class of the sect. From the moderate faction comes the money and cannon fodder - they are not moderate by our standards of definition. But like you state, they are not always focused on the killing end of the business. I am inclined to believe that left to their own devices and outside the influences of the two inner rings would abandon the extreme ends of Islam all together (not un like Jack-Mormons and Sorta-Catholics). As I argue, removal of the fire-brand mullahs, et.al., would precipitate the refision of not only the Q`uran but the Sharia edicts as well.

David Selbourne and I used to go round and round over how the cult could be influenced to the point of change that which is chiseled in stone and un challengable. David was the cerebral thinker to my simpler helicopter gunship pilot mentality. He wanted to take the academic approach to untangle the Gordian Knot; I was and remain taking a fire axe to it. My wishes include the notion of ending them all and let their moon-god sort out the righteous from the indignant devout from the rest of the curs. I see no purpose in over complicating the means to the end. I believe we're on the same sheet of music.

john jay

rod:

i think we are on the same page, same meter, same key.

john

Rod

JJ -

I guess I'm old-school soldier when it comes to doing battle with the enemy. Basic Infantry training doctrine teaches to engage the near targets before the far ones and over-the-hill targets. While Islam is the center-mass engagement target, BHO and his ilk are among the immediate or near targets.

I read in one of your posts that you consider him to be a "Water-Ass" - a person of no back-bone. I'm not so sure that he is as feckless as that. AS the HalfAssedAfricanMuslimApostate stands, he is more closely aligned with the objectives of Islam than with America. It is about control and domination or elemination. (In his case, I think the same organization structure applies - he is not as autonomous as he is believed to be. He is only a part of the target scheme. Eleminating him from the U.S. picture is an immediate requirement if this nation is to survive; those within the "Star-Chamber" are the real villians to be reckoned with. This group's outer buffer ring is the "Progressives" / uber-liberals.

He and his ilk are the main distraction to the war with Islam. He is the enemy within and the fly in the soup.

john jay

rod:

o.i.c. plant.

but, still, a water ass.

i assess him just the same way the russians do.

john

Rod

JJ -

I recall an op-summary that reported Putin refer to BHO as the spindley African Dick-bird.

What is a Dick-bird, you ask? It is a small bird that pecks the fleas and ticks from elephants and buffalos and drinks the seepage from their peckers.

john jay

rod:

seems apt enough.

john

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