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December 26, 2011

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Rod

JJ, for an old barrister, you have a firm grasp on what strategic capability is; the basic tenets of winning a large-scale and sustained effort to wage war include not only supply production (paramount to this is national autonomy to facilitate sustainment of this) and transport capabilities, but just as important as getting all the appropriate parts, pieces, and personnel to the battles is the committment to finish the war once it has been initiated.

I don't mean to take issue with your current assessment of the current capacity of the US to sustain war-time production levels. However, this nation cannot do so without having to rely on in many cases unfriendly or potentially anti-US countries who would not hesitate to cut us restrict or end our access to critical elements necessary to produce, replace, or repair our fantastic tous. Think about it, much of our manufacturing capabilities of critical parts have been moved outside our country. Unless and until this nation recoups not only these exported manufacturing capabilities but just as critical in-country skills (from production line people through management) to make it a reality.

As it stands now, we nor any other country (friendly or unfriendly) have the capability to replicate the war making materiel of WW-II with all of the abilities to wage a protracted conventional world war.

Even if we did have this capacity, the lack of competent and skilled diplomatic representatives who are wise enough to steer clear of fighting a major war effort until hostilities are over or nearly so. Examples of this diplomatic incompetence was the Paris Peace talks and the still on-going negotiations on the Korean Penensula. Diplomacy is not and should not be a fair democratic process. It can only be effectively conducted from a position of power and not from a spirit of fairness.

But I commend you for your understanding between strategic and tactical war making and sustainment requirements. Your comments?

Rod

john jay

rod:

all of your observations regarding the limitations upon our productive capacity are clear, cogent & convincing.

added to those considerations, any objective appraisal of our current weapons/military/production capacity must acknowledge that a lot of our stuff is old and outmoded, and nearing the end of any reasonable service life.

having said and acknowledged that.--

we still have a lot of very useful assets, and a lot of assets which will remain useful in the short term.

and, if you compare what we do have and its service life as opposed to what our potential adversaries have, and we are not in too bad a shape.

for instance, the soviets/russians have one missile frigate with a flight deck that took them about 30 years to get into service, and which goes to sea every so now and again for about 40 days at a whack.

no carrier group to go along with it. no fleet for transport of oil, water and food. it could stand against a u.s. carrier task force for about the ten minutes it would take it to sink after engagement.

the chinese have the sister ship, bought from the georgians years ago when the rooskies couldn't make the payments on the promissory notes during construction. just launched.

no marine attack flotilla's, no littoral ships.

no air assets at all of a strategic nature.

but, your points are true. we are slipping. and, we do absolutely nothing to keep our capabilities in house, and we are loosing the scientific community and construction history and heritage slip down the ways to oblivion.

what a lot of people do understand about these things is that military and construction and logistic capability are as much art and heritage and family as they are science. as the rooskies and the chinese are discovering, just where do you find the marine architects who can design the ships, the design bureaus who simply do not copy and reiterate, and the welders and fabricators and shipwrights to build such stuff.

ours dies.

if you look at wwii, you will see that in its early stages the situations in most countries parallel ours today.

no productive capacity, and essentially outmoded and antiquated weaponry, even that recently manufactured.

i give you the grant & lee tanks, the little panzers of the wehrmacht firing 37mm guns, and the tanks which had hulls and turrets made from riveted steel.

a far cry from that which saw the end of wwii.

do i have to get into airplanes.

you make a good point. does the united states have the ability to start from that position again and to apply the production capacity to an all out war effort? do we have the production capacity.

i doubt it.

which is why our superiority in material goods and good equipment is so important, and so vitally important to maintain.

as you so very well know, and recognize.

john

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