summer patriot, winter soldier

three things you should know about islam ... by the society of "the white roses" ...

well, a very easy day of blog posting, as i am just putting up things friend have sent me by email.  this came to me from friend "randy ron," and a very big "hat tip" to him.

i am going to copy the email, and put it forth below, as well as a link to youtube for a most effective film.  here is the link to the youtube film, and i set forth the accompanying text below my signature line.  i do not know who authored the text of the email, else i would give it proper attribution.

the link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded .  i wish i knew where else the film could be acquired, just in case youtube "scrubs" it.

john jay @ 08.31.2010

p.s.  you may find a very interesting article at wiki about the resistance group, "die weisse rose," who opposed adolph hitler and handed out a series of pamphlets until apprehended by the nazi regime.  they were tried, and while some were executed for their part in the publication of pamphlets, others were not.  which is not to say that they did not suffer the consequences for their conscience: it has to be understood that they anticipated this, i believe.

the wikipedia article linked above is a very loving tribute to their heroism and sacrifice, motivated by the highest idealism.

the email text:

open quote:  "a group calling themselves "white roses" created a video to inform
non-muslims about islam.

the name of this video is three things about islam.

"white roses" is headquartered in sweden. this first version is in english.

the name "white roses" is based on a student resistance group "die weiße
rose" in nazi germany. the group became known for an anonymous leaflet
campaign, from june 1942 until february 1943, which called for active opposition to
adolf hitler's regime.

you may be familiar with the points made in this video but many americans
are not, either out of a desire to put their heads in the sand to avoid
confronting the problem or just simple ignorance of the crisis we face."

it may not be possible to get all the dramatis persona to acknowledge this
islamic road to perdition but those americans, who just do not know, out of
ignorance, just might find the learning experience worth while."  close quote.

and, if you google"the weisse rose" you will find this very interesting list of references, including that of a movie depicting the events.

this history of the intimacy of christianity & the united states is not endorsed by the harvard university faculty, nor by columbia university's, nor by walla walla community college's ... listen at your own risk ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlfEdJNn15E .  a tip of the hat to irwoodguy and pookies.  thank you, guys.

this history of the intimacy of christianity and the united states is not endorsed by the harvard university faculty, nor by columbia university's, nor by walla walla community college's.  odd, the role of orthodoxy in the affairs of the intellect, and the suppression of fact upon which it rests: an interesting gymnastic, to profess truth, as professors do, based upon the suppression of truth.  well, i will leave the consideration of that to better minds.

the video is entitled, "u.s. capitol tour with david barton."  it seems a bit lacking in describing the role that islam played in the founding of the united states, but, we'll just leave it to b. insane obama to fill in the little omitted niches of "historical fact," with regard to how islam is such an integral feature of our heritage.

well, when the marines went ashore at tripoli to wipe out the little pirate's den that was extracting tribute and ransom for american sailors and dignitaries kidnapped and murdered at sea, they did make it into the proud marine corps hymn.  "hymn."  not anthem.  not song.  but, "hymn."  hhmmnn. 

you may find it interesting to note the muslim tradition of priracy in north africa that percipitated the marine landing in this little history at wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirate .  the muslim tradition of murder, rapine, piracy and thuggery go back centuries.  nothing changes very much, does it?

john jay @ 08.31.2010

pat condell on the "ground zero" "zero faith" "zero good faith mosque" ... at front page magazine ...

well, nicely done.

i doubt there is a conservative blog in america hasn't/won't eventually link to this pat condell video log.  presented, as only he seems capable of condensing truth and rhetoric into cogent, persuasive and dispositive argument on an issue.

he exposes imam feisel al-fraud rauf for precisely what he is.  a jihadist seeking conquest.  and, labels this mosque as what it is, a mosque to commemorate what islam perceives as triumph over america.  hey, it's not done yet boyo's, i am still drawing breath.

islam has not yet picked "the 7-10 split" in america, and islam isn't going to.

here, at this link:  http://frontpagemag.com/2010/08/31/bad-faith-at-ground-zero-2/ .

this mosque will not stand.  that is my pledge, my prophesy.  what g_d casts, g_d can put asunder.  and, g_d has many agencies.  many.

john jay  @ 08.31.2010

feisel al-fraud rauf ... "moderate" muslim my ass ... his lineage and progenitor goes right back to the muslim brotherhood, and to the wahhadi's ...

feisel al-fraud rauf  ...  "moderate" muslim my ass  ...  his lineage and progenitor goes right back to the muslim brotherhood, and to the wahhadi's.  in this case, my friends, the old adage that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree holds true.

the following is an excellent compendium on imam feisel abdul rauf, a/k/a al-fraud rauf, the "supposed moderate bridge builder" behind the "ground zero" mosque.  and, yeah, he'll sell you a shar'iah compliant brooklyin bridge, too.  and, you'll get along with him just fine, too, so long as you kiss his muslim butt as part of your daily religious ritual.

this article by alyssa lappen entitled "exposing the real imam feisel abdul rauf the man behind the ground zero mosque,"appeared in the august 17, 2010 edition of the blog "resistnet.com" and was posted by "robert."

again, authorship of the article is by alyssa lappen.  i would suggest that you follow the link and read the entire article, which shows that feisel rauf is a dedicated jihadist with a long association with the muslim brotherhood and allied organizations. 

go ahead, read, make up your own mind. 

the excerpt that follows, however, is concerned primarily with his association with sheik          al-qaradhawi, a jihadist rabble rouser if there ever was one.  the giveaway, of course, is that he is described by imam feisel abdul rauf as a "moderate islamic scholar," this description for the ignorant and credulous.  follows the excerpt:

in the fiscal year ended jun. 30, 2009, feisal's a.s.m.a accepted at least $1.3 million, including $576,312 from qatar,¹³ whose government stands accused of funding international terrorism, has long harbored terror financiers, and for decades hosted muslim brotherhood spiritual chief yusuf al-qaradawi. rauf is quite friendly with qaradawi, a large, founding shareholder in terror-funding al-taqwa bank who champions sharia law, wife beating and suicide bombing. [footnote] ¹⁴

rauf's 2000 and 2004 books both laud shariaand envision implementing it in the U.S. – and “rejuvenating” the islamic spirit of 14th century jurist taqi al-din ahmad ibn taymiyyah and his 18^thcentury heir muhammad bin abdul al-wahhab. rauf also lauds purported “modernists” jamal al-dinal-afghani (d. 1897) and muhammad abduh (d. 1905) who revered wahhabis, ibn taymiyyah and like rauf pretended sharia – with perennial jihad and countless strictures on non-muslims and women – complements western ideas like those in the u.s. bill of rights.

friends, to put the matter in as straight forward a posture as possible, imam feisel abdul rauf is a fraud and a malignant cancer upon the american polity.  he is a "clear and present danger" to our political liberties, our heritage and to the religious institutions which are the bed rock of our country.

again, i urge you to read alyssa lappen's article in full, just follow the above link, as it is a treasure trove of information on al-fraud rauf.  hey, pretty good rhyme, isn't it?  al-fraud rauf.  that is what he is, and that is how he shall be known.

john jay @ 08.30.2010

posted by jewel, the tasty infidel at tasty infidelicacies ... always funny, always to the point ...

friends:

this from the proprietress of "tasty infidelicacies," the hard hitting jewel. 

go there.  understand.  this post, "rhymes with tolerance, a synagogue in riyadh" went up on tuesday, august 24, 2010 and resides still at the top of her main page.  it will be there for a while.  she just publishes the good stuff, and doesn't waste her time, or yours, with drivel.

sad to say, no new posting at "the blasphemous book of the jau jau" as of recent.

john jay @ 08.28.2010  ***  14 days to the "ground zero" mosque protest in new york city.

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from "tasty infidelicacies", "... a synagogue in riyadh."

It really isn't that hard to understand.  We know what goes on in mosques. We understand not because the press in this country has actually done its job and investigated what is said in the pulpits of the mosques. They haven't looked into the history of Islam honestly nor read the major texts of Islam to find out what they teach the faithful. We have had to do that, ourselves.

We have had to learn by searching, online for honest teachers who aren't afraid of being called names by the press. And what a mother lode of knowledge there is to be found for even the least curious among the incurious, gullible press. We have all had to make reassessments about the things we have taken for granted all of our lives. It isn't easy to admit that people aren't basically good at heart....but knowing Islam and how it malforms its followers, we can say that with comfortable certainty.



Of course, a few (you can count them on one hand) brave souls will actually do their job as journalists and report the facts about the actual state of the mosques, but you won't find them in this country. Sadly.

The press is incurious and contented. Their response is always to call the opposition 'Intolerant', 'Racist' and 'Islamophobic' .....why would anyone be THAT, I wonder?

So let's call them on their tolerance and make them 'prove' it. They won't be able to, but it's worth the effort just to prove that the press are all liars, and the Muslims driving this bomb packed bus to Ground Zero:

Go ahead, build your damn mosque, and then:

Let's build a synagogue in Riyadh,

A monastery in Mecca,

A convent near the Kaaba,

Maybe a three-decker.

 

A sweat lodge in the Kasbah,

And a Buddha in Beirut,

A church in Medina,

With an ashram there to boot.

 

Some Shinto shrines in Turkey,

A Chabad in the U.A.E.,

Let Wiccans into Iran,

And Baha'i in Abu Dhabi.

 

Let Amish ride their buggies

Through the streets of Kuwait,

While Qatar invites the Mormons

With the blessings of the state.

 

Sudan will shelter Druids,

Egypt all things Voodoo,

As Iraqis take in Zoroastrians

And Jehovah's Witnesses, too.

 

All these folks and many more

Live in the U.S.A.

They worship as they want to,

That's always been our way.

 

This is tolerance, my friends,

It's not a one-way street.

If it goes in one direction,

It leads only to defeat.

 

{Coda:

Mosques are built on sacred ground

Where atrocities have been,

To say one thing and make it clear,

To say, "You lose, we win."}

Posted at Solomonia by guest writer Ann Green

Posted by Jewel -The Testy Infidel

the fatwa that governs muslim soldiers fighting in iraq and afghanistan ... make that, the fatwa that governs american muslim soldiers, and points "the way" ...

odd, the little things one discovers while reading for himself, and not just repeating other blogs. 

whilst reading and scribbling away here in what some (me) describe as my well deserved obscurity, "... unnoticed and unremarked upon ... ," i came across an interesting little tidbit in imam feisel abdul rauf's book, "what's right with islam: a new vision for muslims and the west," harper collins 2004, isbn 0-06-058-272-3, not to be confused with "what's right with islam is what's right with america" harper collins 2005, and not to be confused with the same book published as "a call to islam from the world trade center rubble: islamic dawa from the heart of america post 9/11" in malaysia in 2007.

drum roll, please.  it is an appendix at pp. 287-291.

it seems that one muhammad abdur al-rashid, the "ranking muslim chaplain" in the u.s. military very shortly after september 11, 2001 anticipated american muslim troops fighting in afghanistan, so he fired off a request for a legal ruling from islamic authority, in the person of sheik yusuf al-qaradawi, as to whether american muslim would be permitted under islam to fight against their co-religionists there.  for more on sheikh yousef al-qaradhawi, as he is also known, and his long standing relationship to imam feisel abdul rauf, please see atlas shrugs's article, "... ground zero mosque imam's ... extremism exposed."

mr. muhammad abdur al-rashid asked for a fatwa on whether it was permissible under islamic law and religious doctraine for american muslim troops to fight in afghanistan, or whether they should refuse order to do so, and refuse to fight against their fellow muslims.  it is as fucking simple as that.

muhammad abdur al-rashid, and american army officer, is asking a qatari sheik whether islam will permit american troops to fight in a war as directed by their chain of command.  do you understand that?  an american army officer.

do you get that.  and american army officer is asking an islamic religious authority if islam permits american troops to fight as ordered.  please consider, if you are capable of the mental gymnastic, if major malik nadal hasan, a medical doctor, a psychiatrist, and an officer in the united states army had been aware of the document which follows.  or, please consider that perhaps he was, and saw this fatwa for what it is.

now, i am going to print the whole thing, as it is, without a whole lot of comment.  i have, however, taken the liberty of interliniating in the document several [explanatory words underlined and in brackets, followed with my initials: jj] brief words & phrases which i feel add the proper conjunctive structure to the document, in order to help parse the text, and in order to help you understand what is really being done here.

but, follows the document which more than several muslims feel governs the conduct of american soldiers.  well, you say, that's a bit far fetched, ain't it.

to which i can only reply, apparently not to muhammad abdur al-rashid, the then highest ranking muslim chaplain in the united states military service.

john jay @ 08.27.2010

p.s.  i recommend to you that you read my post, "the ultimate comment on the issue of self defense, from an excellent post at the gates of vienna" and also follow the following hyper-link to another article there by "baron bodissey" entitled "islam, mischief and the right to kill," on how to read a fatwa recently issued by the highest saudi religious council as it pertains to "terrorism" and "innocents."  in short, there are no "innocents" to muslims among the infidels, e.g., that's you and me, and so when you read muslims proscribing harming "innocents" it means other than what you think.  please read the "baron's" excellent post, and use it to understand the below.

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appendix

from, "what's right w/ islam: a new vision for muslims and the west," by feisel abdul rauf. 

 

fatwa permitting u.s. muslim

military personnel to participate in

afghanistan war effort

 

in the name of god,

the compassionate,

the merciful

 

legal fatwa

this is the reply to the (religious) inquiry presented by mr. muhammad abdur-rashid, the most senior muslim chaplain in the american armed forces.  it concerns the permissibility of the muslim military personnel within the u.s. armed forces to participate in the war operations and its related efforts in afghanistan and elsewhere in other muslim countries.

in his question he states that the goals of the (war) operations are:

1.  retaliation against those ‘who are thought to have participated’ in planning and financing the suicide operations on september 11^th, against civilian and military targets in new york and washington (he then detailed the consequences of those operations.)
2. eliminating the elements that use afghanistan and elsewhere as safe haven, as well as deterring the governments which harbor them, sanction them, or allow them the opportunity for military training in order to achieve their goals around the world.
3. restoring the veneration and respect to the u.s. as a sole superpower in the world.

furthermore, he concludes his inquiry by mentioning that the number of the muslim military personnel, in the three branches of the american armed forces, exceeds fifteen thousand soldiers.  hence, if they refuse to participate in fighting, they will have no choice but to resign, which might entail other consequences.  finally, he asks if ti is permissible, to those who can transfer, to serve in different capacities other than direct fighting.

the reply:

praise be to god and peace and blessing be upon the messengers of god.

we say:

this question presents a very complicated issue and a highly sensitive situation for our muslim brothers and sisters serving in the american army as well as other armies that face similar situations.

all muslims ought to be united against all those who terrorize the innocents, and those who permit the killing of non-combatants without a justifiable reason.  islam has declared the spilling of blood and the destruction of property as absolute prohibitions until the day of judgment.  god (glory be to he) said:

‘because of that we ordained unto the children of israel that is anyone killed a human being—unless it be in punishment for murder or for spreading mischief** on earth—it would be as though he killed all of humanity; whereas, if anyone saved a life, it would be as though he saved the life of all humanity.  and, indeed, there came to them our messengers with clear signs (proofs and evidences), even then after that, many of them continued to commit mischief on earth.’ 5:32

hence, whoever violates these pointed islamic texts is an offender deserving of the appropriate punishment according to their offence and according to its consequences for destruction and mischief.

it’s incumbent upon our military brothers in the american armed forces to make this stand and its religious reasoning well known to all their superiors, as well as to their peers, and to voice it and not to be silent.  conveying this is part of the true nature of the islamic teachings that have often been distorted or smeared by the media.

if the terrorist acts that took place in the u.s. were [my emphasis: jj] considered by the islamic law (shar’iah) or the rules of islamic jurisprudence (fiqh), the ruling for the crime of ‘hirabah’ (waging war against society) would be applied to their doers.  god (glory be to he) said:

‘the recompense of those who wage war against god and his messenger and do mischief on earth is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land.  that is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the hereafter.  except for those who (having fled away and then) came back with repentance before they fall into your power; (in that case) know that god is oft-forgiving, most merciful.”  5:33-34

therefore, we find it necessary to apprehend the true perpetrators of these crimes, as well as those who aid and abet them through incitement, financing or other support.  they must be brought to justice in an impartial court of law and punish them appropriately, so that it could act as deterrent to them and to others like them who easily slay the lives of innocents, destroy property and terrorize people.  hence, it’s a duty of muslims to participate in this effort with all possible means, in accordance with god’s (most high) saying:

‘and help one another in virtue and righteousness, but do not help one another in sin and transgression.’  5:2

[but,: jj] the noble hadith mentioned above only refers to the situation where the muslim is in charge of his affairs.  he is capable of fighting as well as capable of not fighting.  this hadith does not address the situation where a muslim is a citizen of a state and a member of a regular army.  [hence, it does not apply here.  rules of expediency applying to when a muslim is not in charge of his affairs, apply therefore …: jj] in this case, he has no choice but to follow orders, otherwise his allegiance and loyalty to his country could be in doubt.  this would subject him to much harm since he would not enjoy the privileges of citizenship without performing its obligations.

the muslim (soldier) must perform his duty in this fight despite the feeling of uneasiness of ‘fighting without discriminating.’  his intention (niyya) must be to fight for enjoining of the truth and defeating falsehood.  it’s to prevent aggression on the innocents, or to apprehend the perpetrators and bring them to justice [in that instance in which he is in charge of his affairs].  [but, where he is not in charge of his affairs,] it’s not his concern what other consequences of the  fighting that might result in his personal discomfort, since he alone can neither control it nor prevent it.  furthermore, all deeds are accounted (by god) according to the intentions.  god (the most high) does not burden any soul except what it can bear.  in addition, muslim jurists have ruled that what a muslim cannot control he cannot be held accountable for, as god (the most high) says:

‘and keep your duty to god as much as you can.’  64:16

the prophet (prayer and peace be upon him) said:

‘when I ask of you to do something, do it as much as you can.’

the muslim here is a part of a whole, if he absconds, his departure will result in a greater harm, not only for him but also for the muslim community in his country—and here there are many millions of them.  moreover, even if fighting causes him discomfort spiritually or psychologically, this personal hardship must be endured for the greater public good, as the jurisprudence (fiqhi) rule states.

furthermore, the questioner inquires about the possibility of the muslim military personnel in the american armed forces to serve in the back lines—such as in the relief services’ sector and similar works.  if such requests are granted by the authorities, without reservation or harm to the soldiers, or to the other american muslim citizens, then they should request that.  otherwise, if such request raises doubts about their allegiance or loyalty, cast suspicions, present them with false accusations, harm their future careers, shed misgivings on their patriotism, or similar sentiments, then it’s not permissible to ask for that.

to sum up, it’s acceptable—god willing—for the muslim american military personnel to partake in the fighting in the upcoming battles, against whomever, their country desires, has perpetrated terrorism against them.  keeping in mind to have the proper intention as explained earlier, so no doubts would be cast about their loyalty to their country, or to prevent harm to befall them as might be expected.  this is in accordance with the islamic jurisprudence rules which state that necessities dictate exceptions, as well as the rule that says one may endure a small harm to avoid a much greater harm.  [in short, we rule that american muslims must fight in this situation, because it serves the greater long terms interests of islam that he do so, in this instance.: jj]

and god the most high is most knowledgeable and most wise.  [and, we say, in this instance and for the interests of islam, god so ordains, so it to be.:  jj]

                                                                                                rahib 10, 1422 ah/

                                                                                                september 27, 2001

 

signatories:

/s/________________________

sheikh yusuf al-qaradawi

[grand islamic scholar and chairman of the sunna and sira council, qatar]

 

/s/________________________

jJudge tariq al-bishri

[first deputy president of the council d’etat, ret., egypt]

 

/s/________________________

dr. muhammad s. al-awa

[professor of comparative law and shari’a, egypt]

 

/s/________________________

dr. haytham al-khayyat

[islamic scholar, syria

 

/s/________________________

mr. fahmi houaydi

[islamic scholar and columnist, egypt]

 

this english version was translated from the original arabic, authorized and approved by the authors of the statement.” 

 "what's right with islam: a new vision for muslims and the west," by imam feisel abdul rauf, harper collins 2004, isbn 0-06-058-272-3, at page 287-291.

 

the "cordoba caliphate" lives again, and over america, as espoused by imam feisel abdul rauf ... coming to you via "a call to islam from the wtc rubble: islamic dawa in the heart of america post 9/11" ...

i just labor away in obscurity here at my little blog, unnoticed and unremarked upon, so that i have time to actually read things and reflect upon them.  no pressures here, as a bad day is not to be very much distinguished from a good day, and i read and investigate what pleases me, and say what i please about it.

so it is, that i have been reading imam feisel abdul rauf in his own words.

"what’s right with islam:  a new vision for muslims and the west," by:  imam feisel abdul rauf.  harper collins, new york, ny  2004.  isbn 0-06-058272-3 (cloth).

chapter 6: a new vision for muslims and the west, sub-chap:  “what an american imam is doing: the cordoba initiative”  pp. 274-75.

“since the tragedy of september 11, i have dedicated myself to helping heal the relationship between america and the muslim world.  this has meant an overflowing schedule of church, synagogue, and mosque presentations; newspaper, radio, and televisions interviews; and journeys to speak at interfaith gatherings and conferences of every sort on several continents.  my commitment also led directly to the writing of this book.

reflected in this book are the philosophy and goals of a nonprofit endeavor that i have cofounded: the cordoba initiative.  it is named after the period between roughly 800 and 1200 c.e., when the cordoba caliphate ruled much of today’s spain, and its name reminds us that muslims created what was, in its era, the most enlightened, pluralistic, and tolerant society on earth.

through partnering with jewish, christian, and muslim organizations as well as secular institutions and foundations, the [muslim created: jjjay] cordoba initiative is building a broad multifaith coalition to help repair the damage that has been done to muslim-american relations over the last fifty years [damaged by whom?: jjay]   the initiative invites american muslims to play a leadership role in mediating between the muslim world and america.  it plans educational and cultural programs, off-the-record international dialogues between leaders, communications initiatives, and ‘difficult’ interfaith conversations—all aimed at building understanding and peace, both at home and abroad.  this book is an emanation of the ‘spirit of cordoba.’”

you may read this paragraph any way you want, and as is dictated by your intellect and comprehension of contemporary & historic events.  but, the way i read it is that imam rauf aspires to build his "ground zero" mosque from the ruins of the world trade center, and he wishes to establish anew a "cordoba caliphate"as "created by muslims", and need we add, administered, policed and regulated by muslims under shar'iah and fiqh, in and over the united states, and he wishes to establish an enlightened, pluralistic and tolerant society as conceived, perceived and ruled by islam.

i am just going to keep repeating it in these pages until somebody acknowledges that i have, ... , just that one little candle that lights the world, as is said, ... , but the imam's book "what's right for islam ... " was published subsequently in malaysia under the title, in malay as "seruan azan dan puing wtc: dahwah islam di juantung americka pasca 9/11," which is generally translated into english as, "a call to prayer from the world trade center rubble: islamic dawah from the heart of america post 9/11."  this was the third publishing of this book.  it was under this title that imam rauf and his publishers chose to publish the book, and presumably the message he wished to convey to his malay and muslim readership.  you figure it out.

i have done my duty by you.  i have brought you the facts and rauf's own words, so that you may see it yourself, and so that you may draw those inferences and resultant factual conclusions as your intellect allows you.  you choose your fate.

john jay @ 08.27.2010

what is rifqa bary's immigration status? ... is she still in the country? ... trento, stemberger, gatterdam or lloyd, ... , anybody have any answers?

i have set forward my views on how the rifqa bary "legal team" squandered her chances at access to any number of beneficial remedies for her illegal status under the u.s. immigration code.  first, they eschewed asylum, then they botched the s.j.i.s. application by an extremely ill-chosen evidentiary stipulation, and now they seem dilatory in seeking relief for her such as might be accorded her due to her health?

i have not heard nor do i know what is happening to her in this regard, and what is being done in her behalf in this regard.

are any formal applications or petitions for relief under the immigration codes before any federal immigration panels or agencies?  hearings pending?  relief granted?  temporary or permanent?

if so, what is the status of same?

if not, why the heck not?  i am so bitterly resigned to all of this that i cannot even work up a profane version of this inquiry.

is anyone in the vaunted stemberger, gatterdam & lloyd camp willing to respond to this, and to say what is going on with this little girl's fate?  can anyone speak to these matters directly and with candor, so that one does not have to rely on the "disinformation" available at the rifqa bary website, which seems concerned more with fund raising than anything else.

john jay @ 08.25.2010

the text of obama's speech at al-ahzar in cairo, egypt ... next, the comparison to chapter 6 of rauf's book ... either he is a liar, or obama cribbed him ... we'll see ...

on june 4, 2009 b. insane obama spoke to a gathering of the influential in islam at al azhar university in cairo, egypt.  the text of his speech is here, the deathless prose of obama set forth forever.  normally, not something to worry over.   http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/us/politics/04obama.text.html?_r=1  

the "writing" of this speech, generally credited to speech writer ben rhodes on the staff of the white house.  tp://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/08/obamas_cairo_address_writerinc.html 

but, imam feisel abdul rauf has claimed "authorship" of this speech, saying that it mirrors/mimics/follows/is inspired by his remarks made in chapter 6 of "an islamic call to prayer from the world trade center rubble: islamic dawa from the heart of america post 9/11".

well, come hell or high water, i am going to acquire that book, and read chapter 6, and compare it with the text of obama's june 4 speech.

if rauf is lying, he is a lying son of a bitch.  hey, that would be a surprise.

if rauf is not lying, then his ties to obama, and obama's ties to him, lie a lot deeper than either has been willing to admit thus far.  and, obama's troubles stemming from his "endorsement" of the "cordoba project" might just get deeper.

you know, either way, i am really enjoying this.

in addition to the speech thing outlined above, an interesting controversy has been brewing over the plans for the "Cordoba" triumphal mosque.  now, i am not particular fan of frank gaffney nor his cohorts, but chris brim has written an interesting piece at "big peace," one of breitbart's enterprises.  http://bigpeace.com/cbrim/2010/08/17/ground-zero-mosques-hidden-websites-follow-the-shariah/  most of what imam rauf wants to do is shrouded in mystery and obfuscation, and the precise architecture of the mosque is certainly no exception, so those who speculate about what is hidden from them are not to be blamed if their speculations take on a bit of the fanciful.  but ms. brim, has taken to a conjecture backed by some very interesting factual circumstances to wonder aloud what the exact function of this "ground zero" mosque might be.  she figures the "community center" to be a global center for the advancement of sharia.  take a look, it is some interesting reading.

hell, why don't they just build in antelope, oregon a favored spot for those who fancy religious conquest for some time now.  may even be a spare rolls royce or two for bigwigs to sport about.

john jay @ 08.05.2010

update: the leftist elite and angelo codevilla's essay ... an excerpt from atlas shrugs, that mr. codevilla will laugh at for about a week ...

this delicious little bit of writing at atlas shrugs, regarding a dainty fluff at new york magazine, one mark jacobson.  writes pamela:

i didn't expect much from ny magazine. i wasn't disappointed. jacobson is your typical ny elitist. during our conversation, he lamented to me that he couldn't relate to america. that new york was really more like a "separate country." i, of course, disagreed, and said i thought new york, was very concentrated america, quintessentially so. he disagreed and said that he had nothing common with "these huge people in their pick-up trucks."  i said i loved them (the description being unduly harsh and insulting) and they were america. certainly he wasn't. new york a separate country, indeed.

i am a country boy, spending most of my life in a small town of 4,250 souls, and a good bit of it in a small city of about 60,000 or so.  never lived in a county that had more than about 180,000 people in it.  yet, on the three occasions i have been to manhattan i have loved every second of it, especially enjoying the night when all the work crews are out, and talking with the workmen.  i spent about 3 hours one afternoon touring the irish american historical society just down the avenue from the natural history museum, given a tour by the native born irish contractor who was renovating the place completely, from a new hvac system in the basement with humidity controls for the book/document/artifacts storage there, and just in heaven over the oak and walnut quarter sawn paneling and wainscoting his crews were installing, not to mention the stained glass work.

my guess is, mark jacobson wouldn't have a clue, and that he has never done anything like that, in one of the most interesting places, with the most interesting people, that i have ever seen and met.  the irish contractor was delighted, however, to meet a civilian who understood what quarter sawn wood is, and looks like, and i'd still be there if i hadn't gotten hungry.  it all started when he laughed, as i was watching some work being done of the steps to the door, that it was funny to listen to a work crew in manhattan speaking english, or, their irish version of it.  he laughed.  i laughed.  and, the rest is history.

here is the reply i wrote to pamela with regard to that namby pamby mark jacobson, the sissy.

now, when you have done reading my letter, please go to this link and read angelo codevilla's essay, the leftist leviathan, on the divide between the american elites, the ruling social structure, and the rest of the american people.  and, read the link to pamela's piece.

you will understand why we are ill served by our political and social elites, and why we must get rid of them.  and, they don't seem to feel obliged to "resign their position," so ..... .  what's to be done?  laughing.

john jay @ 08.25.2010

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pamela:

re: mark jacobson

i got a real kick out of mark jacobson, who felt uncomfortable about "huge men in pick-up trucks." why, the little priss. i grew up in n.e. oregon, where those huge guys sometimes drive around with deer rifles in those large pick-up trucks. i have even known a few of them who work 12-14 hour days in the woods and the fields and at harvest, and who get grease and dirt and grime on them, and even, .... , horrors, gasp, or tres unpleasant, sweat and smell at the end of the day.

i used to retire baseball caps at the end of the summer, and they would be grime encrusted and the cardboard brims and crowns of the hat salt stained from sweat.

my dad was a welder and blacksmith, and his hands were fissured from work and torment, and each of the fissures & creases lined with black carbon, and his finger nails broken to the quick, and lined with grease underneath, nor matter how often he used a pumice block and toothbrush on them. his arms were marked with the scars from hot slag from welding, and he didn't own a shirt that wasn't stained to the belly with grease, and pock marked from molten slag from welding rods and cutting torches.

and, oh yeah, he was dirty and sweaty and smelly when he got home at night, and so tired he lay down often to nap, to refresh himself.

i graduated college from whitman college in 1971, and from the university of oregon law school in 1977. my dad graduated 8th grade from a little high school in kansas, and went to work in the gas fields and the oil/gas pipelines in the midwest with his dad and brothers until they were put out of business in the depression. he worked in an era where the whores and the gamblers and the bootleggers followed the camps right along in tents, and where he saw many a drunken and addled man out of his paycheck hours after receiving it.

he was a teetotaler. never drank, and seldom even cussed. tough as nails. i only found out shortly before he died that his nickname was "butch" when he was a kid, and rode horses at the race track as an exercise boy. he has an abiding dislike for franklin roosevelt, which i could not understand when i was a kid. he loathed the man. i didn't understand then, i understand now.

i can tell you in one word what my dad would have called mark jacobson, and without hesitation to his face. he would have said simply, "sissy." or, he might have said, "sissy boy," if he had been all worked up about it.

my friends and i? the ones who make the food for the idiot, the ones who cut and haul the lumber for him, who make his roads? the guys, the "huge guys in the pick-up trucks," the ones with the gnarled and calloused hands, sometimes blistered and torn, who sweat in the day and stink at night before they bathe?

the ones who own the guns, and know how to skin and gut a dear, and can do a fair job butchering it?

we are not so kind. we would simply regard him as a prick. he can take his little french cuffs, and his man's perfume, and his man breasts and soft gut, and just go do himself.

he wouldn't last a second in a man's job out here.

john jay
milton freewater, oregon usa

p.s. i am old and tired now, but, i worked the crab grounds and the crab boats in alaska, and worked harvest and drove trucks on night shift, and i cleaned toilets as a night shift janitor in a truck stop north of eugene, oregon to help pay for summer school at the university of oregon: there's not much you can tell me about an american standard biffy.

i do not have much use for mark jacobson.

dear matt:

you are a pimple on a donkey's butt. about as useful, maybe, i would suppose.

pamela geller:

ah, sweet lady, you i like and admire and respect. for your courage, your advocacy, and your truth. and, you are easy on the eyes, as we say out here. and, these assholes that don't like your music and saturday and sunday threads, why they can go take a fucking leap at the moon.

jjjay.