think about that.
john jay @ 08.07.2014
think about that.
john jay @ 08.07.2014
well, has it? come on, use that brain god gave you, and think.
not one. is that not odd?
john jay @ 08.06.2014
p.s. it means, silly, that hamas did not intend the tunnels for humanitarian use. they are not bomb shelters.
they are, in fact, weapons. military weapons. terminating inside israel.
is there any other reason that they extend into israel, other than to deposit armed warriors onto onto israel soil?
think it through. the following should help.--
one last point. if some poor dumb ass palestinian "civilian" or a "child" had managed to get killed in a tunnel, do you not think that hamas would have published a picture of the poor dead thing? and, trumpeted, "see what israel has done!!" think about it.
a friend sent me an article that caused me to search out an article entitled "stories from the battlefield: hamas tunnels used to target israel's kindergartens," by mordechai ben-menachem, dated 07.27.2014, at the daily caller. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/stories-from-the-battlefield-hamas-tunnels-used-to-target-israels-kindergartens/ .
now, maybe i have been inattentive and have simply missed the publication of the facts set forth in this post, but, for the first time i have seen the true scope of the hamas plans involving the use of the tunnels, and understand for the first time the true extent and importance of the israeli victory over hamas. [as i neared completion of this article, "live links" started to pop out all over about these tunnels. obviously, this story is known in the blogosphere, even if not reported on abc, nor nbc nor cbs.:jjj.]
and, maybe this article will convince you of the true perfidy of the mass media, and its utter complicity in the goals of destruction hamas intends someday to deliver upon israel. if this article by mordechai ben-menachem is known by me, it is known by the media types, and they are not coughing it up. not in america, at least. the reason is simple. the facts in ben-menachem's post run counter to the left's meme on the israeli-hamas struggle.
quite simply, the western media is evil. it is state-sponsored, ideologically driven, evil.
the tunnels were designed to launch attacks on israeli children, the attacks set to attack on sept. 24, 2014. the tunnels are not little rat holes, but, shored up structures large enough to drive vehicles through. and, large enough to move a considerable number of troops through, in a hurry. they went from gaza into israel, and stopped at israeli settlements underneath and near israeli schools.
they were designed to deliver attacks upon israeli children, during the israel high holidays.
they were equipped with explosives, ammunition, and with tranquilizers to subdue any israeli prisoners that might have resulted from their operations.
this tunnel is reinforced w/ steel beams and heavy materials for shoring. it is also supplied with electricity, and there is considerable conduit for the same, seen in the photo. it addition, this section of the tunnel is connected by a shaft to some location above ground, for the use of bringing in a lot of material, and presumably, troops.
there are lots of stores in this tunnel. no provision for civilians to take shelter, but, lots of stores.
but, in a larger sense, this story is very important. because now, we are being treated to the inevitable spin of the mass media, about how this was not an israeli victory, and that hamas has tricked them and prevailed in the "land war" between hamas and israel. and, that israel has suffered a "strategic defeat," even if it operated with impunity on a tactical level.
the story of these tunnels renders any such assertion as nonsense.
hamas had planned a major attack on israel. israel has thwarted that attack, rendered its possibility a nullity, and has destroyed hamas's ability to utilize the tunnels, even as it continues to destroy the tunnels. israel has dealt to hamas a very crippling blow.
and, israel has exposed the complicity of governments and private concerns related to the digging of these tunnels. someone came in and showed hamas how to construct them, and supplied the material and stores by which to arm them. and, someone financed the construction of the tunnels. (hint: that would be the united nations, the obama administration and the euro leftist behind these bullshit schemes, and, quite obviously, the russians. in other words, the usual group of thugs intent on israel's destruction.)
in sum, israel suffered no defeat. israel enjoys, this day, a major victory. and, you should know about it, and understand it.
john jay @ 08.06.2014
picture below. a wedding in a tunnel. you think israel has not gathered just a little "intel" on these tunnels?
with any luck, the happy groom now lies buried and moldering in the very tunnel in which he was wed.
"hey, folks!! join my new p.e.n.i.s. foundation.
(people encouraging niceness in society.)
"p.e.n.i.s., it's not hard unless you make it that way."
http://www.break.com/pictures/fantastic-pics-of-51513-hehe-2443668 . posted by on may 4, 2013.
well, what can i say to top that. a sensible notion, advanced in a very funny way. go visit the link, it's not nasty, just the motto written on a chalk board. i am still laughing.
john jay @ 08.03.2014
it is something of a mystery to me how a man, not generally known for being overly smart, is given an opportunity to publicly demonstrate some restraint and intelligence, and having done so, can somehow parlay that into a jury verdict that he has been thereby damaged to the tune of $1.8 dollars.
well, stranger things have happened i suppose.
as i understand it, chris kyle, now deceased said that he struck ventura, who did nothing in return. now, this is a bit surprising, as ventura has built a public persona as a tough guy, and capitalized upon it. to the best of my knowledge, he never made a dime showing off his intelligence. that he was able to muster sufficient intelligence not to strike back comes as a bit of a surprise. (at least in light of the image he has cultivated.) by demonstrating some modicum of intelligence in a public situation, ventura then convinced a jury that he had been damaged by that show of restraint. (hey, they award money damages in tort, supposedly as compensation for damage, ... , true enough.)
well, stranger things have happened, i (again) suppose.
so, it comes to this in america. a person can win a law suit asserting his reputation has been damaged by a display of intelligence, and social restraint. goodness, gracious, sakes alive. as we say out here in n.e. oregon.
john jay @ 08.01.2014
p.s. oh, yes. chris kyle was murdered, and ventura continued the law suit against his widow. w i d o w. he sued the widow. it is unclear to me whether she punched ventura.
ventura is a physically big man, about 6'4" tall, and well over 250 lbs, it would appear. he trained as a u.d.t. while in the navy, and apparently served in that capacity. he never saw combat, never was in viet nam, though he was stationed in the philippines. he likes to say that he is part of the "seal/u.d.t." community, though, persons who underwent u.d.t. training were not considered seals, nor were they certified as seals. (to be certified as a seal, or as u.d.t., a person has to undergo a 26 week certification tour of duty, which ventura did not do, either as a seal candidate nor as a u.d.t. this is not consistant w/ the persona he has cultivated.)
he wrestled professionally. he was known as "jesse 'the body' ventura. he was governor of minnesota. he announced ambition to run for president of the united states in 2016.
you'd think he would be a bigger man.
he reminds me of an old joke. usually directed against texans, who sometimes seem to demonstrate an elevated sense of worth. it goes like this. "question: 'how do you bury a 6'6" 275 lb. texan?" "answer: 'you drain the shit out of him, and bury him in a match box.'" seems apropos to me, when considering the ventura "persona."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura --- at the beginning of this article, you will see ventura in a picture, dressed in a sport coat under which he is wearing a "u.s. navy seals" t-shirt. as one of the live links belows asks, "is it possible to defame jesse ventura." i would have thought the answer to this question to be, no, not possible in this universe.
hamas does not exist to protect the "citizens" of gaza. were that the case, the "warriors" of hamas would be meeting the israelis in open combat in order to prevent palestinian "casualties." this is not the case, is it? they will not be drawn into battle to prevent the deaths of the people they rule.
the matter is quite the contrary.
to hamas, the sole rationale for the existence of the palestinians in gaza is to be casualties, and to be portrayed as casualties, the more luridly the better. were hamas to have had the interests of its citizenry in view, they would have cut short their missile attacks on israel, and sought a cease fire. but, that is not what they are interested in.
to hamas, the longer the war, the more palestinians who are killed, (especially women and children), so much the better. just so long as hamas and its operatives are not killed, so long as the israelis do not seek them out specifically for extermination, hamas is quite content to see "their" citizens killed. the more, the better.
to see its "ideological" & "theological" points made, hamas would be quite content to see gaza reduced to gravel, and the gravel and the palestinians bulldozed into the sea. the "citizens" of gaza are nothing more or less than "high profile" canon fodder to hamas, so long as hamas emerges from the whole affray its "purity" established, its status of the enemy of israel intact.
the raison d'etre of hamas is not to govern and protect "its people." the aim of hamas is to use their remains as the canvas upon which to paint their portrait of israel. the "people" mean nothing else. their "highest & best" uses, are as corpses.
and, hamas? their purpose? to provoke, to goad, to incite the state of israel into defending itself, to promote the status of hamas. they have no other purpose. and, to hamas, the only useful palestinian, the only "good" palestinian, is a thoroughly dead palestinian. just so long as he or she makes a good photo, and just so long as the death fits the narrative.
john jay @ 08.01.2014
http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/branco-cartoon-crash-of-civilization/ -- a brilliant cartoon, here. obama's & kerry's "diplomacy."
"war such as this***," refers to the war fought between israel and hamas, and as wages now.
for the most part, war on american soil has been fought on battlefields, open ground removed from urban environs. and, civilian populations have for the most part been removed from the carnage of the battlefield. and, as we shall see, not particularly kept track of, which to me means that it was little noted, because of it relative rarity.
(the american indian has never been granted these exemptions in its dealings with the united states, on this continent. but, that is another topic.)
you would be wrong, however, to think that american cities and civilian populations have always been removed from battle, or granted immunity from it. union armies under ulysses s. grant** laid classic siege upon vicksburg, mississippi and then proceeded to pound it into submission and eventual surrender. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vicksburg . atlanta, georgia was laid waste by union armies led by william tecumseh sherman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Campaign . the final horrors of the american civil war took place at and around petersburg & richmond, virginia and again, ulysses s. grant commanded the union armies laying "siege" to american cities. although grant did not actually encircle richmond & petersburg, by the end of the battle (and the war) he had so nearly come to it, that general robert e. lee abandoned his defenses rather than see the cities besieged. an excellent compendium of the battles for petersburg & richmon is found at wikipedia. (petersburg, in a strategic sense, was "the front door" to richmond, and grant and lee both knew that when petersburg fell, so would richmond fall.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Petersburg .
it has been my privilege to spend almost 3 days on foot, walking the sacred battlefields at gettysburg, pennsylvania and while most of the civil war battlefields were a bit removed from the towns that lend their names to them, that was not always the case. i stayed in a motor lodge in gettysburg, upon whose grounds robert e. lee, in command of the confederate armies, spent his first night of the battle, headquartered in a house commandeered from the woman who owned it. it was across the street from the lutheran theological seminary then, as now. on the first day of the battle, union forces were driven back through the town by a massive attack from the north, led by confederate general richard s. ewell.
the union troops took position at cemetery hill, where our national cemetery is located, generally in and south of gettysburg proper. those troops who had initially repulsed southern attacks from the west down chambersburg pike (road) occupied a line north to south along cemetery ridge. the second day of battle would take place there. and, if i remember correctly, by the second night of the battle, lee had vacated his headquarters in town. but, for several days, the town was the scene of house to house, door to door battle.
gettysburg lay just north of these positions, after they had solidified, at the intersections of the chambersburg pike, the baltimore pike (upon which the union fed troops from the army of the potomac in washington d.c. and baltimore, maryland, to the southeast), and york, fairfield and hanover roads. the gettysburg & hanover rail road line fed into town from the northeast. the morning of the first day of battle found no troops from either side in the town, but the road network where it centered, begin to funnel troops by the hundreds of thousands to the open fields to its south. the first day they fought for the high ground in and south of town, and by that evening major battle was joined.
the town was in the middle of the battle, and its strategic importance cannot be over emphasized. the town suffered, as only a town in the middle of contesting armies could suffer.
by the second day, even while more troops were moving in for the penultimate climax of "picketts charge" on the third day, major battles waged at the peach orchard, the wheat field and devils den, and joshua chamberlain would be immortalized for his & his troops valor at little round top. on the second day, dan sickles would loose his leg, and become the center of historical argument that lasts to this day. i will give you the casualty figures for the 2nd day of battle, taken from an excellent article at wikipedia, and it was a bloody contest. it was fought on ground within the southern limits of gettysburg, and extended southerly on a north & south line a little more than 2 miles from the center of the town, and yet not one word of the summary concerns civilian casualties:
Casualty figures for the second day of Gettysburg are difficult to assess because both armies reported by unit after the full battle, not by day. One estimate is that the Confederates lost approximately 6,000 killed, missing, or wounded from Hood's, McLaws's, and Anderson's divisions, amounting to 30–40% casualties. Union casualties in these actions probably exceeded 9,000. An estimate for the day's total (including the Culp's and Cemetery Hill actions) by historian Noah Trudeau is 10,000 Union, 6,800 Confederate. This is in comparison to approximately 9,000 Union and 6,000 Confederate casualties on the first day, although there were much larger percentages of the armies engaged the second. Some estimates of total casualties for the day run as high as 20,000 and declare it the bloodiest day of the Battle of Gettysburg.It is a testament to the ferocity of the day's battle that such high casualties figures resulted even with much of the fighting not occurring until late in the afternoon and thereafter lasting about six hours. By comparison, the Battle of Antietam—known famously as the bloodiest single day in American military history with nearly 23,000 casualties—was an engagement that lasted twelve hours, or about twice as long.
jennie wade was the only civilian killed in 3 days of battle at gettysburg.
as i have looked briefly at the history of these battles, i am struck by something odd, especially given our current fixation upon civilian casualties in contemporary urban warfare, and that oddity is almost a complete lack of information on civilian casualties, to include women and children.
as noted, i can find reference to one civilian killed during the battle at gettysburg, killed while kneading bread for her family. she refused to stop her bread making while union and confederate riflemen contested the possession of the neighborhood in which she lived, and a bullet struck her in the back while she worked. the bullet passed through two doors, the person who shot it, never seeing her. http://civilwartalk.com/threads/civilian-casualties-at-gettysburg.8432/ .
in a very cursory search of the net, i could find no authoritative text on the extent of civilian death during the civil war. there is an odd & simple reality about the american civil war, not immediately apparent until one considers the matter. and, that is, no one was used to dealing with the scale of death, the sheer numbers who were killed and missing, because of the intensity and prolonged nature of the fighting during the war. it is fact that more americans died in the civil war than in all of the other wars fought by americans, combined.
when the civil war started, the types of bureaucratic functions & functionaries that exist for keeping track of such things nowadays were non-existent. the military did not have graves and registration units, ... , slaves were often employed to clean the battlefields of the dead, when the fighting ceased. there were not ambulance services to take the dead and dying from the battlefields, nor hospitals nor surgeons to adequately care for the dead and wounded. there were not nurses, nor medics. one half of the dead were never identified. (there is a story about grant and sherman, after the first day of battle called "shiloh." the screaming, chaos and dying in a field hospital near where they had tented made such a din that they could not sleep, so they lay on the ground some distance away, in order to rest. the union had nearly been driven into the tennessee river. sherman noted it had been a rough day, a very close thing. "we'll get them in the morning, sherman," grant said, and slept. the surgery went on through the night.)
it is estimated that 50,000 civilian deaths can be attributed to the civil war.
http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/national_cemeteries/death.html . the facts of the matter are, that no one has a very good sense of what the civilian numbers were, because no institution or organization functioned to keep track of it. americans were largely protestant, and death was part of life, and no one quite comprehended it on such a massive scale, even as they dealt it out.
they would have to learn.
and, most certainly, no one ever conceived of making the dead into "war trophies" to be used as proof of the other side's proclivity for atrocity or cruelty.
times change. people change.
it times past, civilian populations were put to the sword and killed for resisting conquest, men killed and women and children taken into slavery, legitimate plunder. (they remain the same today in islam, in case you are wondering.) defeat was not to be taken nor accepted lightly.
the romans and the greeks killed towns, and plowed them under, salting the earth.
in the 1860's, american armies contested for gettysburg, and one civilian was killed. one.
in wwi and wwii, american strategic bombing killed huge numbers of allied civilians, in order to drive german and japanese armies from their midst.
in gaza, hamas "warriors" lift the bodies of dead children as "war trophies," to demonstrate their valor, and the cruelty of their opponents.
it is all a bit hard to keep track of. it has always been a bit hard to keep track of, regardless of the epoch. the issue of what justifies the bringing and the conduct of war is old, and perhaps epitomized in our tradition by the thinking of st. thomas aquinas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War . the catholic church has tended to be at the forefront of this kind of thinking, and writing, even to this day.
the matter remains elusive.
john jay @ 07.30.2014
** hiram ulysses grant was his true name. the name "ulysses s. grant" was submitted by a sponsor, requesting his admission to the united states military academy. grant simply adopted the error.
they invite the war. they beg for war. yet, when the war comes that they have incited, they will not fight it.
they let the populace they say they "protect" die, but they will not fight the israelis, will not meet them in open combat. they shoot, throw down their guns, and scurry away in red cross and u.n. "ambulances." but, they will not fight.
they kill their people who want an end to this war. they are willing to kill their own unarmed people, who meet their deaths far more bravely than the stinking cowards of hamas, who are afraid of combat w/ armed opposition. http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=794699&Reply_Id=9944944&Page=1#9944944 .
they are the most craven of cowards, the most base and ignoble of villains, and they are cowards. braggarts, capable of murder most vile, but afraid to fight the battles they invite, about which they brag about brave sacrifice before they are fought, but, disappear when the battle comes.
yet, these are the same hamas and the european nations, that the united nations, and even the united states of america, have armed so that they may enforce the law of islam upon a defenseless population.
what farce. what divine comedy, which is, of course, tragedy.
worthless bastards. chickenshit, to the core. camel dung. pig offal. hamas. but, i've taken to repeating myself.
john jay @ 07.29.2014
the war that israel wages against hamas, and against the citizenry that elected and supports it, is terrible.
to which i say, good on israel.
it is the war israel should have waged against gaza many wars ago.
it is a war that hamas goaded israel into, confident that israel would not wage it so furiously, so resolutely, so implacably. the hamas "leadership" (of thugs) miscalculated very seriously, and now the population suffers. what they suffer is "war," precisely what israel has been reluctant to wage against gaza in the past. and, precisely what hamas did not think israel stern enough to wage.
there is no doubt but that it is horrible.--
update, 07.30.2014, gaza powerplant. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/29/israel-hits-symbols-of-hamas-rule-128-killed/ . the post also says that 128 killed in overnight attacks. this is war. end update.
but, it is necessary.
i hope that israel continues to wage this war, as ghastly as it is, until it has eradicated hamas. right down to the last twit. i hope that iran, syria and hezbollah are watching. it is the war that israel should have waged long ago, against each and every foe that attacks her.
will islam learn? will hamas learn? i doubt it. they will test israel again, to their dismay, such that the funeral dirges wail, and the lamentations echo to the very corners of the land.
they had best not test israel again. in the past war has been without cost for the likes of hamas, abbas and hezbollah, and has been limited to the temporary loss of hardware soon to be replaced by those nations & organizations which enable arab terrorism. (yes, this means russia and iran, and the united nations, who exploit the palestinian birth rate & canon fodder to wage proxy conflict.) this was because israel has been reluctant to inflict the extent of casualty that true war involves. apparently this reluctance is a thing of the past, and this war and future wars are not to be limited by humanitarian concerns, and by attention paid to the caterwauling of the west.
this "reluctance" to do what had to be done, is the chief "casualty" of this war, and islam, hamas, abbas and hezbollah had best heed its death.
for israel has learned what she must do when goaded to war, and how to wage it. just as she must, if she is to survive.
john jay @ 07.
emily dickinson. the poet. who wrote wonderfully, prodigiously, and whose writing was virtually unknown at her death. had not a surviving sister found her poetry bound in ribbons, we should not know her work, her soul.
to fight aloud is very brave, but gallanter, i know,
who charge within the bosom, the cavalry of woe.
who win, and nations do not see, who fall, and none observe,
whose dying eyes no country regards with patriot love.
we trust, in plumed procession, for such the angels go,
rank after rank, with even feet and uniforms of snow.
emily dickinson, the collected poems, barnes and noble classics, new york 2003.
hat tip to carolyn e., who emailed the story of meriam ibrahim to me. thank you, carolyn, for your faith and, devotion to it.
meriam ibrahim. who would not renounce her faith. who chose death rather than do so. as martyr to her faith, alone and unknown by the world. her death remarked upon by silence, recognized only by rank upon rank of plumed angels. none would have seen her dying eyes. none would have known.
except for a husband who would not accept this, and friends who risked all to protest and demand her freedom, and a world whose attention was drawn to her plight by their indefatigable courage and witness. they garnered the attention of a church that sometimes does not see, and the commitment of politicians who had nothing to gain, except their own self respect and faith.
an unlikely constellation of forces.
her courage fired and forged courage in others. in the words of the poet, she charged her doom with bared bosom, and swelled the chests of a world far too often numb to such plight.
miracle. nothing less.
there can be no other way to put it, a miracle brought about by the quiet undaunted courage of an alone woman, chained in a dungeon, in whose bosom, to use the word of the poet, burned an unquenchable courage and faith.
miracle. nothing less.
you may read about it here,