how does one respond to provocation?
yes, by all means, do so. respond. imho.
a provocation not responded to simply results in repeated, escalated, and more heightened provocation. in terms of military provocation throughout history, please see mr. hitler prior to wwii, and mr. putin in first crimea, and now in the ukraine.
i view operation "jade helm" as a provocation. i have expressed that view. others have responded to the article, and have made light of my concerns, citing their own personal experience in military operations having taken place on u.s. soil. as to that, let me first note that i spent many years living in and around ft. lewis washington, and yakima, washington, where military operations have long been held. i am no stranger to large artillery pieces going boom in the night, and no stranger to seeing large military convoys carrying large weapons. nor am i any stranger to seeing brits and japanese soldiers in yakima taking "leave" in the local bistros in yakima and environs.
i am not easily excited.
i have never seen a joint military/civilian/federal government training exercise taking place in 9 states. i have never seen an exercise begin by the classification of american states as hostile territory. i have never seen military exercises practicing "extractions" of civilians, and requesting "volunteers" for detentions. i have never seen any exercise asking civilians to be tolerant of firing of weapons in their vicinity.
nor, have i ever seen an exercise announcing that a goal of same is to be able to insinuate military personnel, and armed military personnel, into civilian populations without detection? what military purpose is served by being able to go among us without detection? will the dhs, or tsa, also practice skulking around among us without detection? for what purpose.
so, i say if the military & obama & minions provoke you, then by all means be provoked.
provocation works like this.-- if you respond, then the provocateur uses it as an excuse to exert greater force and provocation upon you, .... , say, for example, martial law. if you do not respond, then the provocateur is embolden to carry forward with greater provocations, until he receives the response he is looking for, or, until he has achieved his ultimate goal, .... , say, for example, martial law. or, the invasion of the sudetenland. or, the anschluss of austria. for, example.
in short, either through exploitation of a response, or further unopposed provocations, the provocateur ends up achieving his goal, if unopposed.
may as well get things started, and face the inevitable, while a chance exists to end the matter at relatively low cost. hitler might very well have been stopped well short of his goals (which he had quite clearly announced), and stopped well short of the invasion of poland, had the west the gumption to face and oppose him early.
again, to those who say that such operations have always gone on, on u.s.a. soil, i ask when such an operation has ever been held over 9 or 10 states; when an american state has ever been held "hostile" for the purposes of such operation; and when the discharge of ammunition among the general populace has ever been deemed legitimate "practice." and, when, if ever, such "practice" has been to insinuate military personnel into the populace without detection? i ask you again, what legitimate purpose this will achieve.
john jay @ 04.20.2015
p.s. and, if "real" citizens get packed off to "practice" detention, how will citizens react if it actually happens in front of them? how will they know the difference.
right wing terrorist has published the declaration of independence at the previous "jade helm" post. remember the part about no troops "housed among us," being part of the declaration? i suggest you read it, once again, and refresh your memory.
p.s.s. i would be especially wary if dhs or tsa take part in these exercises w/ the u.s. military, or if the department of justice (now, that has become an oxymoron, has it not?) practices how to impose confinement on citizens absent due process and properly brought charges in open court? i spell that "tyranny," and nothing else. you cannot practice tyranny, without actually exercising tyranny, in my view of things. period.
and, to the person who poo poo'ed possee commitatus at the sigforum. well, you are a bit of an idiot, (historically speaking) and should read your "federalist papers," by jay, hamilton and madison. simply put.