in the 20th century the europeans, east europeans and russians (this means the austrohungarian empire and both tsarist and soviet russia) probably killed upwards of 100 millions of their own citizens. if you put the numbers of "colonials" who fought the wars and revolutions in africa and asia, the numbers get really staggering.
the united states, by its involvement in and ending both wwi and wwii way before the euro's would have got done with them, saved untold millions. disagree with that assertion if you will, but, if you do, you will be blowing smoke out of your ass.
after wwii the americans, by being the mainstay of n.a.t.o. and basically supplying the troops that performed the policing around the world for the united nations, saved the euro's incalculable billions in defense expenditure, and kept the russians east of the fulda gap, where they belonged. american diplomacy brought the the eastern european countries back into the fold of european economy and politics.
disagree with that, and you are simply an ass.
in all of america's policing action in the 20th century, especially after wwii, america's global projection of power cost the world a pittance in lives, compared to the carnage sown by the euro's, and the soviet communists. you add in the excess of mao's red guards, and pol phat's infatuation with killing people, and the american contribution to the various slaughters in the world are minuscule.
disagree with that, and you simply prove that you cannot even count with your fingers.
next we turn to israel. i don't know if israel would still exist were it not for being an american client state. i do know (except for that period of recent history in which barack "insane" obama has been at the helm, and has done everything that he can do to destroy israel) that things have been a lot easier on israel w/ american support, than it would have been were the u.s. simply indifferent to its fate.
and, i know that we have made a significant contribution to israel's ability to fight wars, and to fight off the constant onslaught from her muslim "neighbors" that she is subject to.
let's look at something, with an analytical eye, and that is israel's killing of "too many" civilians in the various campaigns in gaza and the west bank. israel is excoriated by the euro lefties and hanky wringers (a more self righteous bunch of pansies have never existed anywhere in history that i can identify, except maybe for the various political unions at oxford prior to world war ii, and they were just following the comintern line as set forth by uncle joe) for the deaths in gaza. to the euro lefty, little matter that israel was goaded into war, little matter that the demographics show that most of the war casualties are able bodied males in the 20-35 years old sector, e.g., just who you would expect to be combatants, and little matter that hamas headquarters itself in hospital and schools.
who gives a shit?
the fact is, israel has laid down a whole lot of explosives into gaza, and killed damned few people, accidentally.
and, the fact is, whatever your view of things, you simply have to admit that israel has not killed as many gazans, (most of whom richly deserved it), as the europeans have contributed to the slaughter of human beings in recent history.
any dumb shits out there want to argue the holocaust? any supremely dumb shits want to argue that the holocaust is just what hamas, hezbollah and iran would inflict upon israel, if they could.
the simple facts of the matter is as follows. the european kettle has got absolutely no business calling anyone's pot black, let alone israel's.
no single population on earth has killed more people in the last 300 years or so than the europeans. oh, the chinese and the japanese have tried, but, they are pikers when you consider colonisation, and the mass wars and concentration camps of the 20th century.
and, just in case you haven't been paying much attention, you are an absolute ass if you think the united states and israel have made any "significant contribution" to these mass killings. the numbers do not support.
look it up, if you want.
john jay @ 08.17.2014
p.s. so, you euro's. piss off. i am not inclined to suffer any guff from you arrogant assholes. (and terribly forgetful ones, to boot, ... , the euro's have blood up to their knees and dripping from their hands, and they want to lecture to others about the "niceties" of warfare, the fatuous bastards). you have been, you simply are, without much room for argument, recent history's greatest killers. and, your sole aim was power and profit.
p.s.s. and, the dutchman who returned his holocaust metal, is an ignorant ass. a dip shit, in my view. fuck the pious nit wit. his arrogance is impious. his ignorance of his own history, profound.