what we have learned from christopher dorner, the angry ex-cop ....

christopher dorner is the fellow in southern california who is killing police officers over an employment grievance of some standing, stemming from his former employment by the los angeles police department.

i know naught about the merits his grievance, and very little about the disciplinary proceeding that led to his dismissal.  and, i doubt i'll learn anything else about it from the lamestream media.

what we have learned from his rampage is very simple, and very basic, and something we should not forget.  and, that is, the police are no better at protecting themselves then they are at protecting us.  i know as a matter of fact and as a matter of law, (having been both a prosecuting attorney, "deputy" variety, and running my own law office doing contract criminal defense), that the police have absolutely no legal duty to protect an individual.   that means, if you make a 911 call telling the police that you are being attacked and they do not respond in a timely fashion to stop the attack, that you have absolutely no legal recourse against the police even if you can show neglect or indifference to your predicament.

consider this.   again.

the police do not protect you, and are not legally responsible to.

the police seldom can react to a situation with enough dispatch to stop an ongoing attack or crime.

and, only infrequently, are the police able to resort to the use of weapons to protect an individual, or stop the occurrence of what we might call a discrete crime.

the come, they pick up the pieces, and they investigate, and they arrest who they can catch on occasion, and they arrange for the transport of the victim to the hospital or the morgue, as the case may be.

and, what christopher dorner shows us with absolute clarity, is that they are no better at protecting themselves, than you.  when police forces do effectively apply force, as is the case of the military, is when they have time to react and to mass forces.

but, left on their own, or not in a fighting mode, they are as vulnerable to attack as you and i.  their weapons, their training, are absolutely ineffectual if not in hand, and if they have not had a chance to switch into "fighting mode."

christopher dorner simply walked up to two policemen sitting in a car, and shot them both, and to the best of my knowledge, neither had a chance to react, or deploy a weapon.

some years ago, in tacoma, washington four officers were sitting in a booth in a coffee shop, drinking coffee and eating donuts.  a fellow walked in, sat at the counter, and bent over a coffee cup.  he got up, walked toward them, and pulled a weapon, shooting them as they sat.  he killed all four, killing three before they could draw their weapons.  a fourth officer, (a woman, i think) did manage to return fire, and she wounded the fellow in the abdomen.  she also died in the "exchange" of gunfire, if memory serves me correctly.

he walked out.

simple as that.

he was captured some time later, having taken to ground in tacoma and unable to leave town because of his wound.  i think the people who harbored him, finally figured out he was as dangerous to them as he was to the police.

had he not been wounded, i doubt he ever would have been captured.

the point is simply this.--

the person who attacks has all the advantage in the world over the person who defends.   if we sit idly by and wait for the swat teams to attack us with force in our individual homes when and if gun control and confiscation is ordered, then the forces of the government will prevail.  over time, they will prevail.

if, on the other hand, if and when gun confiscation is ordered or "imposed" by law, we simply attack, whether in coordinated groups or as lone individuals, we will put obama's henchmen and such police who try to enforce such brutally illegal legislation to the rout.  we will sow fear and terror in the government forces who try to impose tyranny upon us.

because, guess what?  they will be completely defenseless to such attack, just as the police sitting in the donut shop in tacoma, washington and just as the police sitting in their patrol car in los angeles, california.

if we attack them, we can kill them with near impunity.  if we wait to be attacked, they have every advantage.

so, if and when gun confiscation or other draconian law is legislated or imposed by executive order, then our order of the day is simply to attack those who are in "authority" whenever and wherever we see them.   every time.  with the application of deadly force.

this will be, for those in authority, "genuine" terror.

i know this.  it is verity.

now you know it.

guess who else knows it?

john jay @ 02.10.2013

Comments

[Grog]

There's more of us than them, they'll realize that eventually.

http://ogdaa.blogspot.com/2013/02/leo-think-about-this.html

Even the SC has ruled that the police are under no obligation to protect Citizens.

http://lastresistance.com/1185/police-not-obligated-to-protect-citizens/

[Rod]

JJ -
By Jove, you've got it! The best defense has always been a fast and violent offense. Dorner's tactics demonstrate the basic tenets of asymmetric (guerilla) warfare in classic fashion. To conduct a successful campaign, one must be single-minded, ruthless, blend-in the surroundings, and fade into the woodwork after each engagement. These tactics can be used over and over with the same results. The reasons for initiating a guerilla war are as varried as the patterns of a snowflake. My point is the tenets of this type of war remain only a means to an effective end. As you clearly note, waiting to be backed into a defensive posture nullifies any advantages one must have when fighting numerically superior forces. The question remains what will be the trip-wire that sets it all this in motion.

[john jay]

rod:

that is the key question.

but, when things starts, then it is to the attack.

no other way lies open to us then.

john

[john jay]

p.s.

now, be mindful, if and when we take the offensive against police, fbi, atf and homeland "security," even at the advantage we will take some casualties.

such is war, as the french say.

but, just brazen attack will carry the day.

just choose your spots.

darkness and stealth are your friends.

and, remember, the fish swim in the sea, as mao said. or, something along that line. whatever in the hell he meant by that. laughing. (if your neighbors approve, seek succor and shelter from them. if they are hesitant, it is best they simply don't know, so, don't you be blabbing to them. kapish?)

just remember, there is no such thing as a free lunch. and, certainly no such thing, when it comes to protecting your liberty.

but, take them a few at a time, relentlessly. press the attack. and, if they figure out who you are, have a nice welcome laid out for them, when they come.

jjjay

[Rod]

JJ -
You're right, the cloak of invisibility remains one's best friend. This will be a war of attrition, choose targets that best compliment the environment when ever possible. There is no hurry with target engagements, they will become careless with time making them all the more vulnerable. Time is on the agressor's side; attacks do not have to be conducted non-stop or every time a target is presented. The end effect will cause more worry than anger. Always know that a target that is too good to be true is most likely a trap.

Conduct your map recons in the light of day (being a gray/white haired Arch Old Bastard has its advantages of being mostly not seen by the public (unless wearing a clown's clothes)) and document them well - a good map with preplanned egress routes are invaluable during hours of limited visibility. When an assault has been mapped, planned, rehersed, and executed, destroy all pieces of evidence and be like Br'er Rabbit and lay low (learn about the concept of safe houses). Once the idea of these proddings catch on, others will follow the model and further take the "heat off" earlier warriors. Let the wave take over the revolt; there is a multitude of targets at almost all levels of the opposition. Take no prisoners ever and never booby trap your house, unless the plan is to remove the whole neighborhood in the first miliseconds of a huge explosion. Acetalene and oxygen along with methane in the sewer systems will work well to this end - they are heavy gases and tend to hang in low areas.

More later.

[john jay]

rod:

my dad was a blacksmith and a welder by trade. nuff said.

and, you are right about being an old poop. you are just about invisible, especially if you hair is not "coiffed" and your cuffs are a bit frayed.

just, ... , "harmless." laughing.

john