the death of innocence ... and islam shall reap what it has sown ... it shall ride the wild whirlwind ...

  

the death of innocence  ...  and islam shall reap what it has sown  ...  it shall ride the wild whirlwind  ...  

preface:  i ocassionally get accused by the hanky wringers at daily kos, little green footballs and the professional granny at barth notes of being a heartless killer, or failing proof of any factual basis in the assertion, recommending heartless killing to my "followers."  both of 'em, i presume.  http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2011/11/i-have-made-rationalwiki-whatever-that-is-.html .  (oddly enough, the page has received some 1,288 views since posted.  i find that almost, but not quite, extraordinary, ... , that so many people have to be told what to think about me, from someone in "authority."  it is, in its own little way, sorta laughable.)

well, o.k.   i have recommended killing to defend ones self, or ones liberty.

but, i have a pretty well thought out basis for doing so, at least in my opinion.   take a look at the writings below, and get yourself inculcated into these issues, for they may become timely.  

and, this is my chief point.   

the things that i recommend, are recommended in response to the unrelenting campaigns of killing and intimidation waged by the left, and its henchman, islam, against the governments and civilian populations of the west and the undeveloped world.

tit for tat, as it were.   john jay @ 10.03.2012    end preface.

update: this from robert spencer at jihad watch, and an invaluable comment section.  http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/saudi-columnist-misunderstands-islam-says-there-is-no-islam-without-jihad.html#comments .

update:  welcome aboard, "loonwatch" and "daily kos" readers, come to see the elephant.  my reply to the articles there, may be found here.  http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2010/08/well-it-is-an-interesting-little-world-we-live-in-isnt-it--i-have-come-under-fire-for-some-language-in-a-post-about-angelo.html 

update, oct. 3, 2012:  this wonderful post at "atlas shrugs," regarding a presidential order signed by bark "no bite" obama reinstating foreign aid to countries that arm children in "liberation movements," http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/10/epicevil-obama-reverses-bush-era-ban-on-foreign-aid-to-countries-using-child-soldiers-savage.html#comments .

go to the link, and see a wonderful photo of a leftist/muslim/people's liberation warrior holding kalashnikov rifle that is almost as tall as he is.   he is a child.   and, he is a killer, and soon quite likely to be a pathological killer before he reaches the age of majority in most countries.

dimes to donuts that he is muslim.  dimes to donuts that he aims to kill infidels.  hint:  that's me, and that's you, and that's anyone who isn't muslim.  end update.

the left's contribution to the killing, revisited, oct 3, 2012:  i am going to link to a post previously published here, to make sure that you, gentle reader, understand the linkage of leftist killing to the killing rampage of islamic jihad.  what i right of islam, is as applicable to what i write of the left.  http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2011/07/they-reap-what-they-have-sown-.html  .   they wage unremitting war against the regimes of the west, and they wage unremitting war against us, the civilian population.  don't take the bullshit from your "liberal friends" anything to the contrary.  and, your "liberal friends" are morally, ethically, and in my mind, legally complicit.  look it up, if you don't understand.  end update.  

  

the death of innocence.  the death of islam.

  

 

the aim of the great propaganda mill that is terrorism was that by the very acts of brutality and bestiality engaged in, there would be brought attention to the fact of palestinian and islamic victimhood at the hands of israel and the united states/the west.

  

 

it was said by its intellectual enablers, you cannot ignore our plight, and you will suffer our savagery until you pay attention to us.

  

 

it was and is a theatre of the macabre absurd, in which “victims” murder their “perpetrators” in the most heinous fashion.  and, by and large, it has been a campaign of much utility to islam, as with each outrage the left would trumpet, see, islam brings to your attention its suffering at the hands of israel, and the left & progressive elements would proclaim their solidarity with the muslim world.

  

 

in diplomacy, and amongst the intelligentsia, the cause of “palestine” is supported, even to the foolishness of endorsing the martyrdom of the “flotilla people” as they attack the israeli military and israeli sovereignty with quite predictable results.

  

 

to the less sophisticated among us, it simply appeared that islam brought to our attention its savagery, and lack of gratitude.  this simple observation seemed heightened in its truth, in the recognition that “palestine” was subsidized at every turn by the united states, the euro union, the united nations, and of all people, by the israelis, in the form of tons of foodstuffs, medical supplies, money, capital investment, and most absurd of all, actual arms and weaponry supplied to abbas and hamas in contravention of the most basic common sense.

  

 

and, seemingly, islam has had a remarkably successful run with this campaign, wowing the sophisticates, the erudite, the rubes, and the gullible and the carelessly indifferent with equal measure.

  

 

there seemed no limit upon credulity, no shortage of the credulous.

  

 

just as there seemed no limit upon the heinous acts of the terror, no shortage of victims, sheep to the slaughter.

  

 

an added benefit to this terror campaign, perhaps one not sought by islam, … , hey, who knows, ask one of the p.r. dudes who runs the terror, … , the social scientists, the flacks, the academics who advise muslim/arabic government just how far they can push the west, … , is that the islamic terror seems to have slaughtered the capacity and will of the west to feel moral outrage against the acts perpetrated against it.

  

 

who thinks of daniel pearl, except his family?  who didn’t say when the poor naïf who went to the middle east, the big kid with the beard, got his head cut off while he sobbed, well he deserved it, going some place like that?  who remembers the names of the contractors who were killed, their bodies hung on the bridge in fallujah, and then burned where they hung, only to have their body parts drug through the streets by cheering crowds of men and boys, triumphant to kill in the name of islam.  who thinks of the mobs with the bodies of the crew of the blackhawk, parading their victory?

  

 

and perhaps here, to my mind, the matter turns.

  

 

irreversibly, it seems to me, against islam.  for islam has taught the west something that perhaps islam did not intend, and perhaps to a degree it never foresaw.  and, which foretells the doom of islam.  it destroyed its own shield.

  

 

islam taught us that islam did not care who it killed, whether combatants, or what we would have termed in an earlier & more enlightened age, whether they were morally and ethically those “innocent” of any of the wrongdoings islam asserted perpetrated against itself.

  

 

islamic savagery consumed all.—

  

 

it consumed without regard to whether the victim had human feelings or emotions or family or loved ones or whether the person was in a healing profession or sought the advancement of mankind, or, whether, in fact, the person regarded islam with ambiguity or hatred or friendly regard.  it killed whether or not the person was a combatant against islam, or simply a spanish commuter on his way to or from work, or whether a hindu or christian visitor to an ancient and holy indian city, or whether a person studying to be a holy man.

  

 

it killed the wedding parties and funerals of its own.

  

 

and, islam denied the status of some dignity to those who died, in the manner of their death or in the sanctity of their bodies after death, inflicting the basest of sexual violation upon the living and the most degraded, savage, vicious degradation of their bodies in death.  islam littered the subway platforms of spain with a man’s head and part of his attached spinal column, his face turned skyward in shock as the bomb blew him apart.  islam littered the streets of israel with the blood, the shredded muscle tissue and viscera of those torn apart by the shock waves of modern explosives, and with buses rent asunder arms and legs and heads hanging akimbo from shredded metal parts, faces sometimes recognizable, or left blackened by the searing heat of their deaths, the particular expression of the explosive as random as the motives that set it off.

  

 

islam killed the innocent.

  

 

and, to its eternal damnation and to its eternal destruction, islam killed innocence.

  

 

intellectually, they have killed forgiveness and forbearance, and intellectually, emotionally and psychologically, they have taught vengeance and retribution.

  

  

the jihad is the great weapon of the powerless, an “asymmetrical” weapon to be used by those without power to bring a conflict to those more powerful.  it is a symbolic weapon, yet as with all symbol it is subject to the nuance of ethics and morality.  and, as with all nuance, as with all that pertains to the intellect and human passion, it can turn on itself.  and, in the final analysis, it can be mishandled by its practitioners so as to turn upon the practitioner.

  

 

and, it can expose the lie of its practitioners.

 

 

islam killed its pretense to a moral and ethical stance in many ways, in many excesses of brutality and bestiality, but no where as it did in the horror of the mumbai attacks.  it exposed its calculating ruthless nature in the communications between the operatives and the controllers, when the controllers instructed them to murder innocents simply for the notoriety of the murder.  it exposed the heart of the beast when it raped, ravaged, eviscerated and sexually mutilated a jewish rabbi and his pregnant wife, cutting the baby from the tethers and protection of its womb.

 

 

truly, what act could have been so foully and ineptly calculated to show the evil of islam, than that act.

 

 

what could have been more heinously calculated to show its contempt of the innocent, of innocence, than that act.

 

 

islam showed the true dimension of its horror when it showed a young boy, perhaps not even 10 years old, ineptly sawing off the head of a man delirious and bound, as members of the community sat around him, women stolidly in burkha’s, men cheering him on, all accompanied by the sound track of a triumphant islam in full song.

 

 

some of you may ask, well, yes, but what of it?  so what?  what is your point?

 

 

islam has killed itself, with its own savagery, with its blood thirst without slake.

 

 

 

my point is that in killing innocence, in making such an eloquent argument that there are no innocents, that no person bears the mantle of innocence, that all who are not muslims are combatants and liable to death in the most debase way, … , islam has rather compelling made the point that we are all exposed to the combat brought to us by islam, that we are all combatants.

 

 

that combatants are not entitled to pity, nor exemption from the random fate of the bomber, nor their throats protected from the cold hard zeal of the muslim scimitar.

 

 

and, that every person in islam, from man to woman to child may be our executioner.

 

 

in short, that there are no innocents in islam.

 

 

in short, that there is no innocence in islam.

 

 

that all of islam is at war with us, and that all of islam is/are [a] combatant[s.]

 

 

islam has sealed its doom.  the jihad has pronounced its own death sentence.  by giving us the knowledge of its message. in destroying ethical and moral and religious concepts such as innocence, and exemption from battle, islam has destroyed the last great restraints and inhibitions for the west to strike back in the full fury of its retribution and revenge.

 

 

islam, in arguing that the west has no moral and ethical right to exist, has rather stripped itself of its own ethical and moral posture as the innocent victim.  it has exposed itself as a heinous, vicious, cruel implacable aggressor, and it has lost its moral authority, if it ever had any. 

  

and, more tellingly.--

  

islam has established without intellectual doubt that there are no innocent muslims, that the myth of the "moderate muslem" is precisely that, and that muslims are no more entitled to exemption or protection from retaliation that any of the other "non-innocent" combatants in the world.

 

islam has no pretension to "innocence," no more than the victims of islam.  there is no innocence.  there are no innocent muslims.  islam is subject to killing on grounds of political expediency on the same basis as islam kills its victims, and islam cannot ethically and morally claim otherwise.

 

 

i contend that we should have destroyed islam as a force of terror when leon klinghoffer, wheel chair bound, went over the side of the achille lauro to drown on october 7, 1985 still alive after being shot in the head and chest by his attackers.

 

 

my contentions in this regard are all but dwarfed, however, in the eloquent and irrefutable proof islam itself has lent to this truth.  islam does not deserve adherence to this preposterous farce of terror, islam has no moral or ethical right to indulge in murder, and islam shall suffer retribution.

 

 

palestinians?  no, frauds, the agents of a false creation myth of yassar arafat and the p.l.o. 

 

 

victims?  by what stretch of the rankest moral inversion? 

 

 

it has been nearly 25 years since leon klinghoffer’s callous execution.  and, in those 25 years, islam has utterly and convincingly destroyed any pretext to victimhood, to a moral and ethical stance in its wanton slaughter, indifferent to the moral or ethical stance of its victims.  islam has argued that its victims are entitled to no such forbearance, and islam has demonstrated sufficiently often so that even its supporters understand that it is entitled to absolutely no forbearance either, from revenge, retribution and reprisal, no matter how wanton.

 

 

man, woman and child.  it is all the same to islam.  and, now, it shall be all the same to us.  we have learned.

 

 

russian president dmitry medvedev recently warned iran of the consequences of its continuing pretension to nuclear weapons.  even the patrons of “terror” grow weary of its stupidity.

 

 

you think the matters unrelated?  interesting.

 

 

john jay @ 07.14.2010

 

 

http://www.cruisebruise.com/Leon_Klinghoffer.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38203762/

Comments

[Jewel Atkins]

I once posted a very long article, I can't remember where I first saw it, maybe it was wizbang, but it was about the eventuality of having to slaughter Muslim kids, because it was quickly coming to this point, and we'd better get used to the fact. Once we jettison the stupid appeaseniks and shills we can focus on an actual workable cold and logical survival plan, but as long as we are governed by pacifists of any sort, as long as we allow them to control the debate, then we will always lose.

[john jay]

jewel:

a lovely picture.

except, i am really astounded, that a person could even attempt to play the piano like that.

you are facing the wrong way to read the music!!!

john jay

p.s. agreed.

p.s.s. must be hard to run the scales that way. (:O }}}}

[GM Roper]

John, it shouldn't be hard to run the scales that way! It gives credence to the phrase "Foot LOOSE and Fancy Free! :)

We don't have to "kill the kids" by the way, just convert them to Buddism or Hindu or some other religion that revers life and not death!

[john jay]

george:

lovely ankles, feet, don't you think? (:O}}}}

when do they cease being kids. when i was growing up, i had no friends capable of cutting off the head of a man, ... , not at 10 years of age. quite frankly, i am somewhat mystified just what that "boy" was? someone especially devout at prayers, for crying out loud?

this is a "child?" not in any sense that i comprehend. when does this thing, this islam, take hold of a child in order to make him capable of such an act? what, they cut off heads as a parlor trick, a stunt to impress the rubes?

john jay

[Hello]

Dear author of this blog,

Is your shift key broken?

[john jay]

hello:

nope.

did it have much to do whether you understood it or not, or whether you like the content or not?

if you can explain to me one earthly purpose for caps, i might be persuaded to try it.

what do they do, just exactly?

john jay

[RalphB]

Dear Mr. Jay,

Mixed case letters greatly improve the readability of a block of text over all upper case or all lower case. Upper case letters are like road signs on the highway of lower case text, signaling the presentation of words that stand for concrete particulars (proper names) instead of abstractions and, in combination with sentence-ending punctuation, signal the units of thought in written language as pauses and pitch changes do in spoken language. Viewed as a whole, the sentence breaks in a page of mixed case text are much more obvious than those in a page of lower case text.

That upper case letters are often redundant (in that they are not required to convey the intended word) is a point not against, but in favor of their use, since information theory shows that a certain level of redundancy vastly improves the probability the the message will be understood as sent. And not infrequently, upper case letters are necessary or very helpful in distinguishing proper names from their ordinary homonyms (red buttons, united laboratories).

It is not enough to show that all-lower-case text is intelligible, one must show that it is equal in intelligibility to the same text in mixed case. Lacking the gestalt of the upper-case signposts which enable the brain to preprocess the information it is deciphering, the neurology of reading is burdened with a heavier information processing load and the system becomes sluggish and/or irritated. Thus, your readers are less likely to receive the message you wish to convey, and that is a shame, because you are a brilliant thinker.

For an introduction to the utility of redundancy in writing see "Readable Writing: The Role of Cohesion and Redundancy":

http://www.jacweb.org/Archived_volumes/Text_articles/V11_I1_Horning.htm

You may also be interested in another online discussion of this subject which includes a link to a scientific study of the issue:

http://jmtame.posterous.com/capitalization-is-obsolete

[john jay]

ralph:

santa barbara said she agrees with me, that capitals really don't convey much at all.

capitals don't convey tone or rhythm, and, in my view, actually serve to impede it.

begin a sentence?

well, the period indicates the previous one has ended. and, if the first sentence of a paragraph is not capitalized, how does that impede the mind's analysis that a new one has begun?

why can "caps" add a mysterious & pleasing "redundancy" to a passage in a way that lower case cannot.

personally, the only way taht "caps" make any sense is as decoration for medieval monks, to give them something to do when copying materials.

thank you, btw, for saying that i am a brilliant thinker. that is a very nice thing to say, but, i am at something of a loss how the addition of capital letters to my writing adds or detracts from that observation, in any meaningful sense.

i doubt much that spelling has much to do with conveying meaning, unless it is a positive source of confusion. i don't that caps do very much, one way or the other, in terms of perception and conveying meaning.

i think precision in syntax, clarity and cohesion in word order, adn rhythm are everything. for example, read carl sandburg's biography of lincoln: his prose is better than his poetry, in my view.

but, thank you very much for the read, for the letter, and for the very nice compliment.

we shall, i hope, simply agree to disagree on the caps.

john jay

[RalphB]

John,

You wrote:

"why can 'caps' add a mysterious & pleasing 'redundancy' to a passage in a way that lower case cannot."

The redundancy in initial caps is in the double, rather than single marking of the sentence break (i.e., using only the sentence-ending punctuation). Also, I did not mention that it reduces some kinds of ambiguity, such as the period marking an abbrev. not being mistaken as one ending the sentence. Initial capitals are not mysterious but they can be pleasing, just as the redundancy in English spelling can be pleasing and provably enhances readability. I notice you did not address my point about proper names.

In any case I would not have commented on the subject had you not said:

"if you can explain to me one earthly purpose for caps, i might be persuaded to try it."

I count at least three earthly purposes explained!

Nor would I have taken the trouble to comment if I did not value the content you offered. I accept that you may not be persuaded and may be too habituated to your personal style to change, but I will continue to read your work since it is certainly worth the slight additional neural labor to reach your thoughts.

[RalphB]

P.S. Who is this 'santa barbara' who agrees with you? (I am not implying that she is less than perspicacious.)

[john jay]

ralph:

just a person, as opposed to a place, who happens to live in boring, oregon and not boring oregon.

say, speaking of oregon, how 'bout them ducks?

john

p.s. it is well that some labor is associated with reading, do you not think so? anything to make the reader attend to what is at hand.

[Kevin]

jj: it astounds me that after reading this most erudite demolition of islam, all folks seem to be interested in is "caps"!

[john jay]

kevin:

it is kind of amazing, isn't it? i've never quite got my head around it yet, ... , but, maybe someday.

i just shrug my shoulders, and keep on chugging. laughing.

john jay

[Rod]

JJ -
I agree with Kevin, what happened to the central of the lack of innocence or innocents of Islam. I have always referred to the outer ring of the Islamic org structure as the support and cannon fodder for the two inner target rings. Recall one of my recent comments regarding how one could shoot women and children to which I responded, "Easy, aim a little lower and don't lead them a much." I never was allowed to fly (transport) any more correspondents after that. But I can honestly state that I never shot anyone (man, woman, child, water buffalo, chickens, ducks, or pigs) that didn't deserve it.

With such a target-rich environment (1.? billion), I am more in favor of taking out the radical enforcement middle and the center or the target, which I have noted in our earlier exchanges that destroying the head and fangs of the snake is easier. Aside from eleminating some really bad players, it gives the outter support ring an opportunity to change their minds and ways. But I could be wrong - we maybe just kill them all and let the Arabian Moon god sort out the innocents from the otherwise.

[Rod]

This to RalphB as in a non-alpha and not even close to a Lambda, if you can't follow the central topic of an article, stay the fuck off-line. No one is interested in your tight-assed opinion about the use of the English language. Get a life, numb-nuts.

[Rod]

JJ -
Please excuse my tirade. Pencil-necked dip-shits sometimes press my hot button. Will try to be more civil in my future posts.

Molan Labe,
Rod

[Rod]

JJ -
Received this from another bud. It was originally penned by a German. Thought you might find it almost in "Lock-Step" with your thinking. Goes to show you great minds work together.

[Rod]

Goddamned, CRS.

p.s.

From: terry@allington3691.freeserve.co.uk To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: 06/10/2012 16:52:57 GMT Daylight Time Subj: A Germans View Islam and fanaticism



A German's View on Islam - well worth reading.
This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist. A man, whose family was of the German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?) The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.
And we are silent.......